Hugo Chavez Dead

Hugo Chavez, the long time dictator of Venezuela, finally did the world a favor today and died. Apparently he really did have cancer after all, despite insisting to the world that he was perfectly fine for the last few months.

Chavez has spent the better part of the last 20 years fucking up the economy in Venezuela, suspending the rights of the citizens there, and nationalizing their resources. While nobody with a brain expects that this will suddenly come to an end now that his VP is running the place, perhaps the people there will be able to seize an opportunity to hold a REAL election and put someone in place who isn't a raving lunatic socialist.

Who knows, elect the right person, and maybe we can put a halt to Iranian influence in the area too.

In any case, here's to hoping this is a turn for the better in Venezuela.
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Posted on Mar 5, 2013 4:55 pm by Samson in: | 47 comment(s) [Closed]
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I have no hope whatsoever that Venezuela will cease to be a dictatorship run in the same vein as before.

But I do hope that I'm wrong.

       
And the only reason why the US cares a rats arse about Venezuela is because they got the oil and you don't. Hahaha. Viva the Revolution.

       
Except we do have oil. We just have assholes like Obama in office who block every attempt we make to exploit it.

       
Actually, I'd heard that gasoline prices in Venezuela were in the range of pennies/gallon, probably because it was a nationalized resource, but I couldn't complain too vehemently about gas prices like that if I could find them locally... in all other regards, I'm with Samson and Prettyfly on Hugo's passing, I can't exactly mourn his passing but I don't really foresee any real changes coming from it either. Fury, you're way too hung up on certain concepts, we have plenty of oil and most of the oil that we do get from outside of our country doesn't come from Venezuela anyway, we care about Venezuela, in as much as we do anyway, because it's one of our "near" neighbors and has produced some super models and certain drug cartels.. ;)

       
Fury, you're way too hung up on certain concepts,


Naaa i was just trolling. Im with you, it is kind of a non event non issue because it is not going to make any difference at all. He is dead, who cares really, some other tyrant will take his place and things will continue on as they have done for the last 20 years.

While communism appeals to me on a theoretical level, everyone being equal in all things and all that, in practice it is just a small number of people who sit upon the shit pile and live it large at everyone else's expense. We are ruled by corporations and greed, while they get cheap gas and have to eat leaves and grass, go figure.

       
Nico coiN [Anon] said:
Comment #6 Mar 7, 2013 2:52 pm
In when Kim Jong-un's tour ?

       
@Fury: Yup, communism sounds great in theory, but in practice it always comes back to the concept expressed by George Orwell in Animal Farm: All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.

@Nico coiN: I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't quite understand your question. Maybe Dennis Rodman could answer it better?

       
Nico coiN [Anon] said:
Comment #8 Mar 9, 2013 4:54 am
Well, I badly expressed myself : I didn't find the proper words nor the right expression as I'm french. I meant that the world won't miss Chavez, so who's next on the list to pass away ? The world would be a better place to live without the North-Corean dictator I mentioned.

       
I wasn't trying to be mean, I just really hadn't understood what you'd tried to express, but I believe you'll find no dissenters here with regard to the idea of the world being a better place should Kim Jong Un become the next notable political leader to die. Though, at this point, should Kim Jong Un die, having not yet even considered who might replace him upon the throne of North Korea it might truly throw Asia into a bit of chaos for awhile as the oriental nations decide whether to just take over NK or wait to see who steps forward to replace him.

       
Personally i hope Kim Jong Un "Lives long and prospers" Changing the leadership is not going to make a god damn difference there. Unless there is a dramatic change in the ideology of the people and a desire to want change and something better, then the only real option to change the face of NK is Samsons favorite idea, extermination via nuclear explosion.

I think the UN security council has go it all wrong, more sanctions against NK are not going to make them capitulate, it is only going to harden their resolve. And these are a hard people already. So rather than trying to push them farther into the dark ages, the sanctions should be the the importation of all the west and democracy has to offer. Lets send them apple pie, big macs, water treatment plants and electricity and show the backward fools what they are missing out on.

       
Never going to happen, and even you're not naive enough to believe that.

They want war. They've been barking about it for years. Decades even. I say we give it to them. It should take about 30 minutes to resolve in our favor.

       
I'm not entirely convinced that the leadership of North Korea does want war. I think it is more a means to control the populace. They have daily 'hate sessions' against the US and South Korea, ala 1984 style, for instance, but that really sticks out as a means of rallying the population behind a supposed enemy (South Korea and the US, ironically, care far more about the well being of the average North Korean citizen than their Dear Leader does).

I'm quite sure in any case that the top leadership of North Korea knows that war would be their annihilation. I'm certain they would put keeping absolute power over death any day. So I say go for Fury's method.

       
It should take about 30 minutes to resolve in our favor.


Until the Chinese start to pour over the boarder and then we are back to where we were in the 1940's. Yet another bloody stalemate. And while my lets import big macs and apple pies was tongue in cheek, the only real options to bring about change are total annihilation of all leaders and most of the general population, or win the people over to a new way of thinking, show them that there is a real option to the daily hardships they face each and every day. Because they have already been politically, globally and economically destroyed, but they continue to stay the course. So sanctions have done nothing at all. They still make bombs, still make rockets, and the people starve.

       
Edited by The_Fury on Mar 9, 2013 8:43 pm
Anonymous [Anon] said:
Comment #14 Mar 9, 2013 8:58 pm
You all are making a mockery of terms like 'dictator' and 'tyrant' by applying them to Chavez. Spouting tiresome anti-American cliches all the time doesn't make someone a dictator. Where are the political prisoners, the disappearances, the state sponsored violence, the media censorship, the cancelled or infinitely postponed elections, the suspended constitution and / or permanent martial law that you expect in a dictatorship? If someone is an asshole, that doesn't automatically make him a criminal as well.

       
@Fury: Last I heard, the Chinese aren't fond of sending their soldiers into radiated wastelands any more than we are. 30 minutes from carrier launch to detonation. That's it. Game over. Pyongyang goes up in nuclear fire.

@Anon: Time to wake up! Everything you said is happening there. He was just better at making sure nobody in Venezuela knows about it.

       
Anonymous [Anon] said:
Comment #16 Mar 9, 2013 10:23 pm
I wish you were president, Samson. All problems would have such simple, quick and easy solutions without any drawbacks :grinning:

       
That's two votes! :P

But really, North Korea threatening us? On what planet does this turn into another 10 year war? Contrary to what they may think, it isn't still 1954. The rest of the world moved on without them.

Just like the rest of the civilized world moved on without Venezuela while Chavez was pillaging the place.

       
Samson's first day in the whitehouse:

Aide: Mr President we have a problem.
Samson: Push Button, Kaboom, problem solved.

       
Indeed, and I pushed it before being told WHAT problem. Pretty efficient, yes? :nuke:

       
Indeed, and I pushed it before being told WHAT problem. Pretty efficient, yes? :nuke:


Hell yeah, totally efficient. It will leave you more time to do the more important things the president does, like buy a dog, play golf and run some laps of Washington in air force 1. The real question is though, how are you going to get out of appearing on the republican news network, aka Fox every half hour?

       
Edited by The_Fury on Mar 9, 2013 11:35 pm
Aw, how cute, he thinks Fox is a Republican news network :P

       
LOL why do i feel like i am being trolled ;)

       
I... I..... I would never do that! :trollface:

       
Anonymous [Anon] said:
Comment #24 Mar 10, 2013 4:15 am
We'll have to start with a good slogan:

"Samson 2016: What could possibly go wrong? - Who cares?!"

       
And his theme song on the campain trail can be Here Comes The Boom by POD.

       
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