Obama Maniacs
So the deed is finally done. Barack Obama is now officially our president. While I can sympathize with how wonderful a thing it must be for him, what I can't stomach is the incessant need of the media and liberals in general to fawn over the guy so much. He's a person last time I checked. You know, one of those human beings? Instead, the media has become enthralled by Obama. To the point of reaching a fever pitch. Yes, I dare say a new religious movement has begun in earnest. Obama Maniacs have risen.
Seriously, it all started out as a small bunch of loyal but obsessive supporters. They got him into the primaries. They fawned over his every word and eventually managed to win the nomination. Soon it got to the point where every word uttered by the man was treated as Gospel. He could do no wrong. Then the election in November came around, and his cult followers went to the polls in droves. No, it wasn't normal every day Americans who elected this man, it was religious zealots enthralled by their new Obamassiah. They pushed aside those of us with common sense who attempted to warn of what the man's policies would do. How destructive they'd be. Like the Spanish Inquisition, we were branded as heretics and called all sorts of foul names. Sure, there was no bodily torture, but that's only because that would have landed them all in jail.
Granted that yesterday was Inauguration Day and all, but for God sake. You couldn't turn on a single channel without running into Obama this or Obama that or Obama is the new hope. Change we can believe in. A new direction. All the horseshit that's been shoved down our throats by the liberal lefties for the last 18 months as though it's just normal. Obama can't sneeze without someone drooling over getting a hold of the snot filled handkerchief. He can't fart without someone wanting to capture the gas and sell canned Obama farts like people once did with canned smog. Every major station ran nothing but their sniveling drivel all day long. All of the radio stations have been talking about nothing else for two whole weeks. It's like they all collectively rammed their heads up the guy's ass and think it smells like roses in there. I can assure you, Obama's ass would smell as nasty as any other ass and one day these gibbering slobber brained worshiper will realize it and wonder how the hell this all happened. The real topper was the chanting. Yes, entire crowds chanting "O-BA-MA" in some kind of sick and twisted mantra like tone. It was utterly disgusting.
When the shine wears off in a few months, people will begin to wake up to the reality of what's happened. They'll suddenly realize that Obama is just a man. Instead of a great man like Lincoln they'll soon realize he's just a
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"It is pointless to resist, my son." -- Darth Vader
"Resistance is futile." -- The Borg
"Mother's coming for me in the dragon ships. I don't like these itchy clothes, but I have to wear them or it frightens the fish." -- Thurindil
Well. I guess that's that then.
The Democrats of today are not the ones from the days of our forefathers. Then again, neither are the Republicans. Things changed right about the beginning of the 1960s. Kennedy was the last of the Dems of old. Up to him, there was very little difference between the two parties. Both were staunchly patriotic. Both were more rooted in their Christian origins. Both of them believed strongly in fiscal responsibility except for FDR. Kennedy was even a tax cutter who took the highest rate from 90% and dropped it to 75%. He should have gone farther but didn't. His assassination marked the end of the true patriotic America loving Democrats.
Starting with Johnson, the party was taken over by radical elements from the uber-left. AKA liberals. We know them better today as hippies, peacenicks, and appeasers. For all they wanted to do was get the USA to lay down its arms and join the rest of the globe in campfire songs of peace, love, and flowers. So no, the Democrat party was not formed with anti-American opinions. It's simply been overrun by people with such opinions. The same people who took an active role in engineering our surrender and withdrawl from a war in Vietnam we had actually won are still in power today. And they're still acting directly against our better interests by trying to make us fail in Iraq and cosying up to our enemies. And yes, one of these radicals got himself elected president because the media - who is now run by the same 60s appeasers - went out of their way to prop the guy up like he's some sort of messiah. Hence why he's been called the Obamassiah. The Democrats simply think he can do no wrong, that no matter how alarmingly bad something he says is, he said it, therefore it's good for the country.
So yes, I am questioning our leader. Vigorously. And look at the reaction I get by doing it. I get called a bigot, a racist, ignorant, dangerous, etc. Y'all on the left simply assume I'm the problem instead of one voice who refuses to play along with what's become the problem. I didn't come down anywhere near as hard on Bush as you think I should have because quite frankly I don't think he was that awful a president. Sure, his border policy sucks ass and many of his fiscal decisions stunk, but his foreign policy was solid and right on the mark. He clearly understood who it is we're up against and exactly how they should be dealt with. Knowing when negotiations are futile is a good quality, it's not a weakness. It doesn't make you a warmonger. It makes you a savvy player in the world game. Knowing when to tell the UN to shove it out their asses is a good thing for the US. Not a bad thing. The UN does not run this country and never will and I'll go to my grave to keep it that way if necessary.
Re: Comparing Reagan to Bush. Get a life. One day history will vindicate Bush as a visionary leader who knew where we stood on the world stage and who had the guts to stand up against the Evil Empire of our day. They may not have held similar beliefs when it comes to domestic policy, but in the end on national security and foreign policy they held very similar beliefs and those are what I value most.
If you want something truly offensive, I am deeply offended by any suggestion that Obama is anything like Lincoln ever was and yet the media has been trying to shove that one down our throats since before the election. Obama is the polar opposite of everything Lincoln believed in and to try and pass it off as anything else is an insult to the American people.
Starting with Johnson, the party was taken over by radical elements from the uber-left. AKA liberals. We know them better today as hippies, peacenicks, and appeasers. For all they wanted to do was get the USA to lay down its arms and join the rest of the globe in campfire songs of peace, love, and flowers. So no, the Democrat party was not formed with anti-American opinions. It's simply been overrun by people with such opinions. The same people who took an active role in engineering our surrender and withdrawl from a war in Vietnam we had actually won are still in power today. And they're still acting directly against our better interests by trying to make us fail in Iraq and cosying up to our enemies. And yes, one of these radicals got himself elected president because the media - who is now run by the same 60s appeasers - went out of their way to prop the guy up like he's some sort of messiah. Hence why he's been called the Obamassiah. The Democrats simply think he can do no wrong, that no matter how alarmingly bad something he says is, he said it, therefore it's good for the country.
So yes, I am questioning our leader. Vigorously. And look at the reaction I get by doing it. I get called a bigot, a racist, ignorant, dangerous, etc. Y'all on the left simply assume I'm the problem instead of one voice who refuses to play along with what's become the problem. I didn't come down anywhere near as hard on Bush as you think I should have because quite frankly I don't think he was that awful a president. Sure, his border policy sucks ass and many of his fiscal decisions stunk, but his foreign policy was solid and right on the mark. He clearly understood who it is we're up against and exactly how they should be dealt with. Knowing when negotiations are futile is a good quality, it's not a weakness. It doesn't make you a warmonger. It makes you a savvy player in the world game. Knowing when to tell the UN to shove it out their asses is a good thing for the US. Not a bad thing. The UN does not run this country and never will and I'll go to my grave to keep it that way if necessary.
Re: Comparing Reagan to Bush. Get a life. One day history will vindicate Bush as a visionary leader who knew where we stood on the world stage and who had the guts to stand up against the Evil Empire of our day. They may not have held similar beliefs when it comes to domestic policy, but in the end on national security and foreign policy they held very similar beliefs and those are what I value most.
If you want something truly offensive, I am deeply offended by any suggestion that Obama is anything like Lincoln ever was and yet the media has been trying to shove that one down our throats since before the election. Obama is the polar opposite of everything Lincoln believed in and to try and pass it off as anything else is an insult to the American people.
The only way The_Fury's view on this could be excused as him not being the problem is if he's simply one of the brainwashed masses, but his statements here don't lead me to believe this to be the case. He seems more like one of the agitator types than someone to be led around by the nose. But he's free to correct that perception if it happens to be wrong.
Personally i don't see myself as any of those things, if anything i am a questioner. I understand that you mistakenly take my position in this debate as being that of an antagonist, merely all i am doing is giving you an opposing viewpoint, one that questions your own and one that is held by a lot of the very peoples talked about in this thread.
The reality remains, that through out the world, there is a lot of hate towards Americans, try telling the mother of a dead baby killed by a US bomb that her grief and experiences are not important because Sadam has killed more of her people than the US have. People like that don't see the good things that the US does, their only experience is that of pain and misery caused by the US.
I think that is the point i have been trying to get across to you, your experience of the USA is a lot different to someone else's experience of the USA, imagine those feelings you felt when 9-11 happened, that's the same feelings that some have had to endure for years and years due to embargoes on medicine and food, because of wars and occupation, because of to be overly simplistic the foreign policy of the USA. Sure there are reasons for many of these things happening, but those reasons are not going to outweigh the pain and suffering of these people.
I think maybe because i have direct experiences in these things that i am able to be a little more understanding of the impact that government and its policy's can have and how they shape the world view of people on the receiving end.
As for my political position, i have been very clear that i am a swing voter and am not party aligned. I tend more to the left than the right, however my views have been shaped by people on both the left and right. I am a strong believer in the Aussie ideal of "A Fair Go", i think people should be able to choose their own destiny without outside interference. If people want to live in the bush and eat bark, then Kudos to them, or if they want to live under a communist dictator, more power to them also. There needs to be less fear of things that are different in the world and more accepting of others rights, religions and cultures. Idealistic yes, never going to happen, yes, but it would be nice to see a little more tolerance in the world, something Obama looks like he might deliver. We will see.
Everything you just said about a US bomb killing a baby, take that and multiply it by 10,000 and then go ask the Israeli mothers who have had to endure that for their entire lives at the hands of Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad. Then explain to me why I should give a flying rat's ass that some Hamas soldiers were wounded during the retaliatory operations that the Israeli army engaged in trying to defend their people from rocket attacks and homicide bombings. And I dare you to come to New York and try and pull that grossly insulting analogy to 9-11 and walk away with your limbs intact. Even the liberals here would consider your disgusting comparison enough justification to hurt you for it.
I realize you'll never go along with this, but what you just described sound an awful lot like true conservatism here in the US. Freedom of expression, religion, the right to choose your own destiny without the government butting their noses in. Racial tolerance and equality. Smaller government. Strong national defense. Hell, most Americans who might stumble in and read this would assume I'm on crack for saying it. But it's true nonetheless. Your views hold more in common with our conservative wing of the Republican party than they ever will with the Democrats. You certainly don't seem to have much if anything at all in common with Obama. You didn't mention fiscal and personal responsibility either but I'd wager you're not opposed to such things either.
You'll find that the liberal wing of the Democrat party believes in quite the opposite. They think government is the answer to everything. From welfare to family life. There's no bureaucracy too big for them. No agency with enough funding. No military action is ever justified. They think we should lower our standards to that of the rest of the world instead of wanting to help the world raise their standards to our own. They sew the seeds of racial divisiveness and propagate the ideals of Marxism and socialism. They think capitalism is a disease that needs to be eradicated instead of a system that needs to be fixed and allowed to grow. The don't believe in national borders and think national security is synonymous with Hitler's death camps. They think corporations are a plague instead of the engine of our economy and the source of financial stability. They consider personal income a resource to be plundered rather than something the people should be allowed to invest on their own. In short, liberals are pretty much everything our media accuses the conservatives of being.
Oh, and btw: Guess who's once again firing rockets over the border into Israel? Yep, that's right, Hamas. After they begged the world to push for a cease fire and got it. This is what they do with the time. Find more rockets to fire. This cycle has been washed, rinsed, and repeated so often that it may as well be a broken record or a looped video. Hamas is not interested in peace. Obama fails to understand this.
i think people should be able to choose their own destiny without outside interference. If people want to live in the bush and eat bark, then Kudos to them, or if they want to live under a communist dictator, more power to them also. There needs to be less fear of things that are different in the world and more accepting of others rights, religions and cultures
I realize you'll never go along with this, but what you just described sound an awful lot like true conservatism here in the US. Freedom of expression, religion, the right to choose your own destiny without the government butting their noses in. Racial tolerance and equality. Smaller government. Strong national defense. Hell, most Americans who might stumble in and read this would assume I'm on crack for saying it. But it's true nonetheless. Your views hold more in common with our conservative wing of the Republican party than they ever will with the Democrats. You certainly don't seem to have much if anything at all in common with Obama. You didn't mention fiscal and personal responsibility either but I'd wager you're not opposed to such things either.
You'll find that the liberal wing of the Democrat party believes in quite the opposite. They think government is the answer to everything. From welfare to family life. There's no bureaucracy too big for them. No agency with enough funding. No military action is ever justified. They think we should lower our standards to that of the rest of the world instead of wanting to help the world raise their standards to our own. They sew the seeds of racial divisiveness and propagate the ideals of Marxism and socialism. They think capitalism is a disease that needs to be eradicated instead of a system that needs to be fixed and allowed to grow. The don't believe in national borders and think national security is synonymous with Hitler's death camps. They think corporations are a plague instead of the engine of our economy and the source of financial stability. They consider personal income a resource to be plundered rather than something the people should be allowed to invest on their own. In short, liberals are pretty much everything our media accuses the conservatives of being.
Oh, and btw: Guess who's once again firing rockets over the border into Israel? Yep, that's right, Hamas. After they begged the world to push for a cease fire and got it. This is what they do with the time. Find more rockets to fire. This cycle has been washed, rinsed, and repeated so often that it may as well be a broken record or a looped video. Hamas is not interested in peace. Obama fails to understand this.
Nice speech, Samson.. I still think calling our friend The Fury an asshole was more than was needed... and, "peacenicks" ??? you're totally too young for that word. 
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*L*Nice speech, Samson.. I still think calling our friend The Fury an asshole was more than was needed... and, "peacenicks" ??? you're totally too young for that word.
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I don't recall being called an asshole at all, but hey, politics can be a touchy subject for some people, with debate being more about winning and loosing an argument than about open and frank discussion of ideas. So i'm not offended if i was called names, its just part and parcel of these sorts of topics.
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