Empire of the Iguanadons

So. The long hard campaign is finally over. No more campaign ads. No more political pollsters bothering you during dinner time. No more mailings. No more listening to pundit after pundit drumbeating for their guy. Well. At least for the next 18 months.

So I guess congratulations are in order. The liberal media got what they wanted. They got their Marxist Revolution through. Protect your wallets people, you're about to have them picked clean. If you're "rich" that is. If not, then open them wide up because Obama is about to fill them full of other peoples' money. I realize that there are an awful lot of people who think that's just fine. I guarantee you the vast majority of them either weren't alive during the Carter administration or have gone senile since then, leaving those of us who are lucid and still have those memories as the only ones who were and still are raising the alarm.

The final results:

Barck Obama: 63,507,800 [52%] popular votes - 349 Electoral votes.
John McCain: 56,151,859 [46%] popular votes - 163 Electoral votes.

Senate: 56 Democrat, 40 Republican, with 2 Independents. Apparently 2 more races are left to call?
House: 254 Democrat, 173 Republican. Oi.

The only good news here? The Senate fell just short of being filibuster-proof. But not by much. This is a massive swing in favor of Marxism/Liberalism in the US and spells certain disaster. Sad to see there are so damn many stupid people in this country. Almost enough to make you want to pack up and head for Canada. Where ironically enough they're in the middle of a conservative awakening after 40 years of heavily oppressive liberal policies.

My only hope is that there will be another conservative awakening here in 2-4 years. It clearly depends on how bad the damage is by the time the next Congressional cycle is due up. 2 years is a long time to suffer. 4 years will be devastating. God help us if Obama gets re-elected in 2012.

So what's an Obama administration mean? Here's the deal:

1. Higher taxes on everyone making $150,000 or more in income per year. This will fall squarely on the backs of small businesses rather than most individuals. That's assuming of course the $150K figure doesn't drop again before January. If they have their way then there's plenty of evidence out there to suggest Obama really wants this set closer to $50K. Surprise! I bet you had no idea you're rich! Don't bother selling anything of significant value for at least the next 2 years either. Capital gains taxes are about to double. If you're thinking of rolling something to avoid it, get it done before January. Or move your assets to a Cayman Islands account. But be quick about it either way.

2. Surrender in Iraq in no more than 16 months. He's made that case pretty damn clear. The troops will be coming home. Whether we've achieved our final result or not. Despite the fact that we've more or less won the thing. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory is something the Dems do best. But our boys in Europe and South Korea? They get to stay put. Bosnia? Sorry, you're not going anywhere. The logic here escapes me.

3. Massive cuts in military spending. Barney Frank said it clearly and in the open. To his credit, it was an honest statement. Defense spending can expect to see at least a 25% reduction, similar to that under Clinton. The reason for this is because they can't find any other way to pay for their pending mountain of giveaways. Cutting spending where it actually should be cut hasn't even crossed their minds. Once these deep military spending cuts have time to take hold, you can probably expect terrorist attacks against the US to increase. Potentially even culminating on another strike here at home.

4. A very deep and very painful recession, bordering on an outright economic depression. This ties back into #1. As taxes go up, businesses will have to cut costs. The very first thing Corporate America does when it comes time for cuts is to reduce headcount. That means massive layoffs. If that's not enough, and there's every indication it won't be, then they simply raise prices on their goods to make up the difference. Which is paradoxical since you just fired 20% of your workforce. The 500+ point drop in the DOW today pretty clearly indicates that Corporate America knows exactly what's coming.

5. Tied directly to #4, unemployment figures will skyrocket. It's been reported on several news outlets that we could be looking at 10% within a year if Obama actually goes ahead with everything he wants. And Congress is now positioned to give it to him with barely any resistance. If you have a job now, for God sake, don't quit. If you're out of work now ( like me ) it might be time to consider finding those bread lines.

6. The Fairness Doctrine. Democrats have made it perfectly clear they were pissed off when that got tanked by Reagan and they were never able to get it back. The 2 year window they had with Clinton got chewed up on other crap like Hillarycare. Thank God for that, but don't think they haven't already got this on the agenda. Obama wants it. Reid wants it. Pelosi wants it. And their target will be right wing talk radio and blog sites. Just like this one. So don't be at all surprised if somewhere down the road this site vanishes. The old saying about "I wasn't a Jew" or however it goes applies perfectly well here. Just remember, when they come for you, nobody will be left to protect you.

7. Citizenship/Amnesty for 30 million illegals. What? You thought there were only 12 million? That 12 million figure is rather old at this point. All objective estimates put the figure much higher, some as high as 50 million, some as low as 15 million. 30 million is probably a safe estimate. What does this mean? It means a whole hell of a lot of Democrats waiting in the wings to vote in 2-4 years. Legally anyway. Anyone with a brain knows they've already been voting in large numbers illegally. Which just means it will be that much hard to root the liberals out of power in the future. Which is exactly how they want it. The big danger here is that McCain will probably side with these bastards and make it that much worse.

8. Russian aggression will be sharply on the rise. Putin himself laughed his ass off at Obama's pathetic response to the Georgian crisis. One need only look at today's headline to know what's to come. The Russians are already vowing to begin a second Cold War. Of course, chances are Obama is going to cave in and cancel the missile shield and leave our allies twisting in the wind like never before.

9. Unrestricted negotiations with Iran. Yep. Forgot about that I bet. Obama made it very clear on many occasions that he'd sit down at the table with Ahmadinejad. Without setting any preconditions. Such as no more nuke program. Count on the Iranians accelerating their aggression and their nuclear program over the next 2 years while the window is wide open.

10. Liberal judges on the US Supreme Court. I bet nobody bothered to think of this either. An Obama appointment will mean major setbacks for those of us on the right for decades to come as many decisions which began to undo the liberal stranglehold on our courts will swiftly be undone. The really bad part about this is, even if the country wises up in a hurry, if someone on the Court dies next year, you can count on the Senate rushing to confirm whoever Obama picks and you can count on a bitter and destructive effort on their part to crush any potential filibuster by the Republicans. You haven't seen activist judges until you've seen a Court filled with the likes of Ginsberg and Stevens. We should be damn thankful the last two appointments were Bushies.

11. Skyrocketing interest rates on housing and car loans. Don't beleive me? Ask your parents how much their mortgage rates were back in 1977. You might just have to pick your jaw up off the floor. My parents got bit by this one firsthand. Their mortgage rate was 21% and they had AAA rated credit back then. Gone are the days of 4% home loans. Inflation due to higher taxes will see to that.

I'm sure there's more I've forgotten. So feel free to add to the list. And welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Leave your money in the box to your right.
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"It is pointless to resist, my son." -- Darth Vader
"Resistance is futile." -- The Borg
"Mother's coming for me in the dragon ships. I don't like these itchy clothes, but I have to wear them or it frightens the fish." -- Thurindil

Well. I guess that's that then.

I do not have time to go trawling back though the old testament, but im sure the Amonites were one such people who God instructed the Jewish nation to annihilate and lets not forget the city they marched around 7 times before blowing their horn and killing everyone.

My point with the Jews was not so much that the killing they did was dogma and ideology, but more so that historically, the Jewish nation has on more then one occasion been instructed by God to annihilate entire populations and races of people in the name of Yhwy.



The largest Muslim nation is Indonesia, it is democratic and has very western laws in regard to terrorism and the like. There are also other moderate Muslim nations, Turkey, Arab Emerites as well as some of the African Nations like Egypt. So again i will say that the vast majority of Muslims are normal peace loving peoples and that those who promote hate are actually a very small minority, with a disproportionately loud voice on the world stage.

Islamic extremists while being the minority have in many ways managed to paint the Muslim faith as war mongering anti everything non Islamic, they blame others for their problems, for them it is the USA who they have labeled the blame upon, just as hitler blamed the Jews for all of Germany's woes.

Tell that to the three fourteen year old christian girls who were found decapitated in 2005.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4387604.stm

And that is not an isolated incident, Indonesia has a long history of islamic violence against christians.

Regarding having western laws.. kissing in public is a crime in Indonesia. In the Aceh province there are already sharia courts. Everything indicates that a majority of muslims are in favor of strict abidance to the koran, and the hate it preaches against unbelievers.

Islam is awesome.
13-year old girl stoned to death for being raped
/sarcasm

Indeed. The notion that Islam is a religion of peace is pretty silly when you examine closely the doctrines of hatred and intolerance they teach. Of course, I'm sure people really meant a religion of piece. A piece of this, a piece of that, a piece of you, a piece of me....

These people only value peace and tolerance when they're not in the majority. But that's only because the Khoran tells them to be submissive until they have sufficient numbers to violently overthrow the system of authority where they are. Just look at England. It's already moving that direction with the establishment of a secondary sharia law system. It's only a matter of time before they find themselves in the middle of a war.

I'm so glad that someone else choose to address that portion of StifflersMOM's post. I was just going to let it stand on it's own rather than dignify any of it with a response myself. But, given that others have dealt with that aspect...


Perhaps you should make the time to go "trawling back through the old testament" then because what you're talking about were hardly matters of the Jewish people giving others treatment that even resembled what they've always been given but rather the Jewish peoples rising up and striking back at other nations once they'd recieve god's blessings to retaliate. That's not exacty a matter of persecuting others in the name of dogma as you initially described, in fact, it's much closer to acting self-defense only after determining that there were no other options. Oh, and that city was called Jericho and the city, which is mentioned some 70 times in the bible, has been built and rebuilt so many times that archeaologists still have a field day with it even today, but at the time in question, Joshua led the attack against it, according to the bible, but historians to this day strongly dispute the veracity of the tale. Interestingly enough, the Amonites you mentioned were what the folks living in Jericho were called. And the few internet sites I was able to find about them (which also refer back to the bible) basically indicate that they were the same as those living in Sodom, which God destroyed without the use of the Israelites.. here's about as much info as I could find for you, enjoy the religious fiction that is shared there, (it's all about the bible so it must be gospel, right?) [url]http://www.mcfarland.co.uk/andrew/exhortations/2003-03-16[/url].


Isn't this exactly what Samson accused you of earlier? Making a statement that was so offensive and ludicrious that it couldn't be defended and when confronted with that fact and asked to provide support for your statement you have to change the subject and try to claim that it's what you meant to say in the first place, even though your new statement is still a bit rediculous? Afterall, can you find something other than the bible (which, despite religious zealotry, ultimately is just a ficticious book about history as described by a handful of monks in the dark-ages) to validate your point here by proving that the Jewish Nation (which didn't exist until Israel's founding on May 14th of 1948 except in "biblical times" has, even on one occassion annihilated an entire population or race of people whether in the name of Yahwey or not and whether under God's instructions or not? I certainly don't need to fall back to the bible to find you examples of historic events in which the Jewish peoples were persecuted (nearly to extinction, in fact).

I'll leave the rest of your post to the comments already posted...

Superman: I apologize for essentially ignoring your response to me, StifflersMOM's post was just.. too distracting for me. I felt rather that if I responded to your post, I'd have to respond to hers, and I was trying really hard to pretend I could just ignore what she'd posted, but I wasn't trying to slight you. In fact, let's see if I can try to address your points now that I've gotten her post out of the way..


Wait, for a government to be powerful it has to also be ineffective and unmanageable? and here I thought being effective and manageable were what made a government powerful...


I'm not so sure that I agree with this either, I think that most historic changes and problem solving have been done entirely sans majority approval.


Aside from my curiosity wondering if Islamized is a valid word... I think I'll stand by my earlier statement "would we really be able to see a difference?"


So does influenza, but we can solve that with a simple shot supposedly, perhaps medical experts should seek to find such a shot for Islam as well?


Given that fact, you honestly think the Islamic militants, even should they manage to take over Europe, would advocate using high technology like nuclear submarines to "patrol" our waters? Or do you suppose that they would simply choose to look at such devices as modern really big swords to live/die by?


So, which part of what you said contradicts what I'd said? (I must've missed it.. I really hate to confue Muslims and Islamics but I honestly can't usually determine what the difference is between them...)

@Conner: You make some very valid points one of which i wish to address, You say that historically the Jewish Nation has retaliated for after being persecuted and this is the justification for their actions. Do you understand that this is the same argument that the Islamic extremists use as their justification for their attacks on us, that they are being persecuted by US interests and that their God says its ok to retaliate because of this. If it is ok to retaliate when persecuted then what the extremists are currently doing is justified and this is the problem with arguments on killing on grounds, each side thinks they are right and the other is wrong and each has prophesy, prophets and scripture as well as idiots who wish to interpret it to suit their own ends and justify their actions.

Until someone stops and says ok this is stupid we cannot go on like this, there will be no change at all, only a continuation of religious bigotry.

StifflersMOM,

There's only one problem with your logic. The United States as a matter of policy has not had any interest in the extermination of Muslims. In fact, it's the opposite. Muslims have had as a matter of policy an interest in the extermination of the United States. One need only go back to the Barbary Coast incidents in the very early 1800s and see what happened when Jefferson tried to reason with those who were attacking our merchant shipping without provocation to see that. The response to his attempts were more or less along the lines of "we kill you because you are infidels" and Jefferson decided to retaliate by wiping out the problem. Which more or less established the standing tradition of "we do not negotiate with terrorists". The Muslims have had it in for us ever since, but until 9/11 had never been able to strike a blow directly against us on our own soil.

It was quite different in the case of the Jews, for they have been repeatedly enslaved throughout their history. The Bible is one of the most detailed accounts of this, going back some 4000 years or so. Try and ignore the religious dogma the monks laced it with and pick out the historical facts, most of which are confirmed through scientific verification. The Egyptians enslaved them. The Romans enslaved them. The Assyrians and Babylonians enslaved them. The Moors and Saracens simply tried to wipe them out. Even the Germans attempted this, and that wasn't exactly ancient history. Genocide is an act of pure evil.

So I'm going to have to agree with Conner that they were simply engaged in acts of self defense. The Jews are in fact the true freedom fighters in all this. Self preservation is a righteous cause.

The capitalist market model kind of implies that decentralization increases efficiency, but with decentralization you give up power and control, hence manageability. I guess in theory it is possible in a perfect world, but in practice effectiveness and manageability are mutually exclusive.


Historically, but we live in different times. Surely going against the majority isn't unheard of in a representative democracy, but one has to agree with the majority on the majority of the issues. Someone who advocates segregation isn't going to get elected.


Other than Israel being kicked out of the euro song festival? Like I said, it'll be a major headache, another cold war. As far as I can tell we're already in a cold war of sorts with oil as the soothing lubricant that keeps relations from grinding to a complete halt. I can only guess at what will happen when Europe falls, just that I wouldn't want to be there when it does.


Islamics isn't a word as far as I know. Islam is the faith, a Muslim is an adherent of Islam.

StifflersMOM:
As much as your last post cries out to me for a response, I'm going to just let Samson's response stand by itself, he said it much more eloquently than what I'd initially thought to say anyway.

Superman:

So, a government, in practice, apparently can't be both effective and manageable. Not quite what you'd said the first time, but I can see your point now. It would be most manageable with fewest bodies to report to, yet most effective with decentralization. But I still don't think you can have a powerful government without it being at least effective or manageable..


Well, sure, one's not likely to get elected by taking an unpopular stance, but elected officials are generally part of the bureaucratic beast, not those who really make historic changes anyway.


Again, I have to ask: would we really see a significant difference if we'd see any difference at all?
As you say, it's already been a form of cold war (along side the not so cold version) for some years now, and Europe's never really had that much love for Israel and her people anyway. Hitler only got the attention of all of Europe because of the sheer numbers involved and the fact that he also exterminated blacks, homosexuals, "deviants", Christians who sympathized in any way with the aforementioned groups, and because (this is the big one) he invaded other countries beyond Germany's borders, not because he wanted to exterminate the Jewish peoples. Spain and most of the Middle East had already tried that before themselves.. even England, Russia, and a few other European countries wouldn't have even felt badly about that aspect alone. *shrug*


*L* Touche!
Well, at least that explains why I can never seem to find what this mystical distinction is between Islam and Muslim.

I guess Europe falling would be significant psychologically for the white population. Lets turn this around, would we see a significant difference if Egypt successfully invaded Israel?

Well, I suppose that, if Egypt ever successfully invaded Israel, the PLO and Zionists would stop fighting/lobbying and there would be small parties worldwide until folks started to realize that they'd lost a major force toward training their special & secret forces, they'd lost a major technological innovator, and many of us would notice pretty quickly when ICQ and other services we use regularly suddenly stopped working permanently, but in general, no, only the Jewish community and those who remain politically "aware"/active would see the differences at first.

But, I understand, and I'm sure that we would see significant differences were the Muslims to take over Europe but they probably wouldn't be in the ways one might think such as how folks dress and act towards Israel, certainly not immediately..