Thought Police
So. As I said not too long ago, it's only a matter of time before the thought police show up and start oppressing the right to free speech. That day came a lot sooner than I figure it would. In the wake of the manufactured controversy over Joe Wilson's outburst in Congress last week - the infamous "You Lie" statement - the House, with Nancy Pelosi leading the charge, has come up with some new rules in order to prevent someone else down the road from daring to speak the truth about the Obamassiah. Oh yeah, and they busted Joe Wilson for speaking his mind as well.
Under section 370 of the House Rules and Manual it has been held that a Member could:
• refer to the government as "something hated, something oppressive."
• refer to the President as "using legislative or judicial pork."
• refer to a Presidential message as a "disgrace to the country."
• refer to unnamed officials as "our half-baked nitwits handling foreign affairs."
Likewise, it has been held that a member could not:
• call the President a "liar."
• call the President a "hypocrite."
• describe the President’s veto of a bill as cowardly.
• charge that the President has been "intellectually dishonest."
• refer to the President as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy."
• refer to alleged "sexual misconduct on the President’s part."
• refer to the government as "something hated, something oppressive."
• refer to the President as "using legislative or judicial pork."
• refer to a Presidential message as a "disgrace to the country."
• refer to unnamed officials as "our half-baked nitwits handling foreign affairs."
Likewise, it has been held that a member could not:
• call the President a "liar."
• call the President a "hypocrite."
• describe the President’s veto of a bill as cowardly.
• charge that the President has been "intellectually dishonest."
• refer to the President as "giving aid and comfort to the enemy."
• refer to alleged "sexual misconduct on the President’s part."
Isn't it great? Our elected representatives are no longer allowed to call the president what he is, they instead have to refer to him as either "disgrace to the country" or "half-baked nitwit handling foreign affairs" since nothing else on the approved list would fit. I wonder if the Dems have thought about that very clearly. I suspect not. And I really love how they've thrown president Clinton a bone as well.
It isn't going to be long now before these rules get extended to cover talk radio, right-wing TV commentary, and probably Fox News in general. My guess is Glenn Beck is going to have a field day with this one. If he hasn't already. Watch what you say folks, because the thought police cometh.
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"It is pointless to resist, my son." -- Darth Vader
"Resistance is futile." -- The Borg
"Mother's coming for me in the dragon ships. I don't like these itchy clothes, but I have to wear them or it frightens the fish." -- Thurindil
Well. I guess that's that then.
You should move up then from the street and get yourself a dumpster. One day with a lot of hard work you might one day own your own mansion, or atleast a trailer.
Is that what yo momma told you? She lied. You will never be warm.
If you have a desire to play with me, you can do so on dead souls dev, there is no honour in spamming up this with tons of out of topic posts of you trying to get a rise out of fury.
Yes, please, take this little party of yours somewhere else.
Anonymous said:
I stated sometime after this I don't listen to Fox News, I never have, I'm not an American, and if you took some of my comments seriously you're a dipshit.
I stated sometime after this I don't listen to Fox News, I never have, I'm not an American, and if you took some of my comments seriously you're a dipshit.
The place of your birth is neither my fault nor my problem, but we have this thing called the internet now whereby one can read any major media publication, including Fox News, no matter what country it's from or what country you're in.
Anonymous said:
I don't have to take his word on it, just because I have no other reliable source and I don't care to find one.
I don't have to take his word on it, just because I have no other reliable source and I don't care to find one.
Actually, if you don't have your own sources and are too lazy to do your own research, you do have to take the word that's given to you because you've nothing else to go on.
Anonymous said:
The content and tone of the post looked like deflection to me.
The content and tone of the post looked like deflection to me.
Your mistake then, eh?
Anonymous said:
I have no life.
Conner said:
27 posts in a span of roughly three hours
27 posts in a span of roughly three hours
I have no life.
I can see this...
Charles said:
/agree
[Lewk I made an account.]
/agree
[Lewk I made an account.]
/seconded
Gratz, welcome aboard officially then.
@The_Fury: Charles does have a point, Firefox & Opera both include spell-checker functions that are really easy to enable and do help make posts much more readable. (In fact, I think all the major browsers have some sort of spell checker either built-in or available for them these days, don't they?)
@The_Fury: Charles does have a point,
He does?, i thought that i did spell correct amateur, but in haste i must have missed it. Usually what i do is not notice that i selected the wrong word, the amount of times don't has become donuts is quite scary really.
[Fri Oct 16 13:40:02 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: someone deleted server02
[Fri Oct 16 13:41:57 2009] [Server01:ichat] Chil@Dead_Souls_Dev: I'm riding this lawltrain to the terminus.
[Fri Oct 16 13:44:05 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: wow i dont even know how to rebuild this
[Fri Oct 16 13:41:57 2009] [Server01:ichat] Chil@Dead_Souls_Dev: I'm riding this lawltrain to the terminus.
[Fri Oct 16 13:44:05 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: wow i dont even know how to rebuild this
See what kind of incompetance exists there now? OMFG, who just deletes a network server?
The_Fury said:
He does?, i thought that i did spell correct amateur, but in haste i must have missed it. Usually what i do is not notice that i selected the wrong word, the amount of times don't has become donuts is quite scary really.
He does?, i thought that i did spell correct amateur, but in haste i must have missed it. Usually what i do is not notice that i selected the wrong word, the amount of times don't has become donuts is quite scary really.
Is that the problem? While I normally wouldn't nit-pick quite this much, but I'd have expected most spell checkers to catch things like "atleast"... at least, mine does. ;D ...on the other hand, Mr. Anonymous could use the help just as much if not even more so given the incidence of such things as the word incompetence in the quote below this...
Anonymous said:
See what kind of incompetance exists there now? OMFG, who just deletes a network server?
[Fri Oct 16 13:40:02 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: someone deleted server02
[Fri Oct 16 13:41:57 2009] [Server01:ichat] Chil@Dead_Souls_Dev: I'm riding this lawltrain to the terminus.
[Fri Oct 16 13:44:05 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: wow i dont even know how to rebuild this
[Fri Oct 16 13:41:57 2009] [Server01:ichat] Chil@Dead_Souls_Dev: I'm riding this lawltrain to the terminus.
[Fri Oct 16 13:44:05 2009] [Server01:ichat] Kiasyn@Talon: wow i dont even know how to rebuild this
See what kind of incompetance exists there now? OMFG, who just deletes a network server?
As much as I'd like to discourage this stuff already, I have to admit that the above quote from ichat is pretty funny on the surface, but looks sadly indicative of how long IMC is likely to last without Samson around to maintain it. As someone who enjoys having IMC in his MUD for both staff and players to enjoy (the parts that are still enjoyable like the news channel and occasionally the game channel), I see this as a very disheartening development.
Mr. Anonymous:
While that's a somewhat discouraging development, it would be really nice if you could stop doing that. You're unlikely to find anyone here who thinks what they did to me was right, and you're just encouraging me to want to block out your IP range to put a stop to it. Take a hint.
Oh, hey Conner replied while I was typing
Just as an FYI, I haven't been doing anything maintenance wise on IMC in quite awhile. I forget exactly when, I'd have to go look up the thread, but I passed control to Kayle ages ago. He passed it back to me briefly, and I handed it over to Davion. The servers are mostly self-regulating. It doesn't take much to keep them online. But deleting one entirely? I can't see how that's an accident, and it's about the only way I can think of to cripple one beyond repair to the point where he doesn't even know how to rebuild it. If that's the level of competence the new world order has over there, the network is lucky to still be operating at all. You could call it a testament to how solid the code is or something.
While that's a somewhat discouraging development, it would be really nice if you could stop doing that. You're unlikely to find anyone here who thinks what they did to me was right, and you're just encouraging me to want to block out your IP range to put a stop to it. Take a hint.
Oh, hey Conner replied while I was typing
Just as an FYI, I haven't been doing anything maintenance wise on IMC in quite awhile. I forget exactly when, I'd have to go look up the thread, but I passed control to Kayle ages ago. He passed it back to me briefly, and I handed it over to Davion. The servers are mostly self-regulating. It doesn't take much to keep them online. But deleting one entirely? I can't see how that's an accident, and it's about the only way I can think of to cripple one beyond repair to the point where he doesn't even know how to rebuild it. If that's the level of competence the new world order has over there, the network is lucky to still be operating at all. You could call it a testament to how solid the code is or something.
My original comment about Opera having a spell check wasn't pointed at anyone, I was just trying to show my amazement, I've been using IE8 for a while now. 
Sorry for the misunderstanding then, Charles, but it was quite an easy mistake to make given the context and lack of background information. In any event, welcome to the non-M$ web. 
[Mon Oct 19 12:27:15 2009] [Server01:ichat] Cratylus@Dead_Souls_Dev: not that samson was any more competent. who runs a primary service off their dang homedir?
What kind of cocksucker is still bashing on the guy despite it now being nearly a week later? That's right, it's Cratyfuck! I think he's sad that he's lost his punching bag and can't help but make fucked up demeaning comments about him even after all this time.
Yes yes, the guy's a real shitbag. We know this. Let it go already.
who runs a primary service off their dang homedir?
Mud admins. Duh.
Crat chose his new target btw, poor Sandi. David piled on almost immediately. It's like the two of them are mated for life.
Oh, I don't know. Some mud admins might decide to run their services as root from time to time (especially the new ones who don't know better yet) or even from buried folders within accounts that are solely set up for running the mud (among the hyper security conscious) but, ultimately, as long as they learn not to run them as root, and otherwise practice reasonably good security, I'm not sure it really makes a whit of difference where they run them from. As for his new target, if it's really Sandi (and she's not just the victim of the day) then I do feel sorry for her. Either way, this is still off-topic here and we're probably all still tired of hearing about it.
Honestly wouldn't surprise me if she is the new target. They were already laying into her heavily for having the guts to stand up to them for what they were doing to me before I got booted from the site. With me gone they haven't got anything better to do. Something I popped in to confirm while responding to another PM there from someone else who thinks I got shafted. Sandi has been getting the beatdown for simply suggesting a thread got revived by the mention of my name. Well guess what? That's precisely what happened. The thread got revived because someone mentioned my name and the jackals couldn't resist piling on while the opportunity was fresh. Then when Sandi rightly called them out on it, they accused her of trolling, and making personal attacks against them, and of only doing so because she *wait for it* disagrees with them. Stuff I saw as all too familiar. That's the kind of shit that needs to stop if the MUD community is going to survive. Sadly, as long as Cratylus and his ilk get away with never being punished for it, it'll continue.
So yeah. At this point I don't think any objective observer could go there and say I wasn't kicked off the admin team for any legit reason. I was kicked off because the other admins think my political and religious opinions are not fitting for a member of the community they want. They made that stance perfectly clear by firing me for bullshit reasons. It wasn't about any of what they claim. It was quite simply because they disagree with my world view and couldn't tolerate that I wanted to express it there. Which, ironically enough, is exactly what they kept using as the reasons for why their rules violations kept getting called out.
You anons can feel free to quote that to anyone who will listen. Yes, I'm still bitter about it all and I don't think anyone could blame me for remaining bitter about it all. But spending a bunch of time harping over it like this isn't helpful to anyone. So go somewhere else with it before I bust out my banstick here.
So yeah. At this point I don't think any objective observer could go there and say I wasn't kicked off the admin team for any legit reason. I was kicked off because the other admins think my political and religious opinions are not fitting for a member of the community they want. They made that stance perfectly clear by firing me for bullshit reasons. It wasn't about any of what they claim. It was quite simply because they disagree with my world view and couldn't tolerate that I wanted to express it there. Which, ironically enough, is exactly what they kept using as the reasons for why their rules violations kept getting called out.
You anons can feel free to quote that to anyone who will listen. Yes, I'm still bitter about it all and I don't think anyone could blame me for remaining bitter about it all. But spending a bunch of time harping over it like this isn't helpful to anyone. So go somewhere else with it before I bust out my banstick here.
Bust out your banstick if you feel you must, but for the record Cratyfuck found his new target. Some poor sap named Mudder. It took a lot longer than expected, but there it is. Just short of 3 months. Time to pull up a chair and watch the new drama unfold.
Sounds morbid to me, I'll pass but enjoy yourself if you can't stand up for this person rather than just watch it unfold.
This is the MUD community he's talking about Conner. They don't stand up for what's right, they stand up for people like Crat instead. You and I both know this firsthand. What they do over there isn't anything close to civil but that hasn't stopped them yet, and if the guy stands up for himself he'll just be ostracized the way we were. Anyone who stands with him will be treated the same way. It's entirely futile.
I understand this, but change has to start somewhere and if I posit that what he's doing is wrong maybe it'll at least spark a bit of civility, or at least humanity, in one member of the community.. *shrug* it's worth a shot. 
That's what I said, and look what ended up happening
Seriously, I think it's just a lost cause. At least in large groups. But I've said all that before.
Seriously, I think it's just a lost cause. At least in large groups. But I've said all that before.
You're probably right, but it can't be not worth at least trying every now and again in case someone will come along who can actually instigate change for the better. Despite Obama's abuse of the word, hope really is never to be given up. 
Looks like it's entirely OK for Orrin the fuckface who gets special advertising rights now to lock threads for the potential to become spamming, flaming, and trolling, and the users are OK with it. Irony is lost on them since Samson used to lock threads for the same damn reasons.
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