2012 New England Primaries

Do you hear that, Mr. Gingrich? That is the sound of inevitability. It is the sound of your defeat. Goodbye, Mr. Gingrich.

So it is done, so shall it be written. With Rick Santorum's exit from the race 2 weeks ago, the process was set in motion for Mitt Romney to secure nomination. A process that should not have taken as long as it did to decide a candidate. A process that for all intents and purposes is over. Not just because Romney won fair and square either, but because Newt Gingrich's campaign is utterly broke. They're so far in debt there's no getting out of it now, and he's been forced to consider suspending his campaign. I expect that despite all the rhetoric to the contrary that Gingrich will drop out soon. Perhaps as early as next week.

The victory was a sound drubbing in every conceivable way, here's the breakdown:

Rhode Island - 100% precincts reporting.
Mitt Romney - 63% (9,157 votes, 15 delegates)
Ron Paul - 24% (3,462 votes, 4 delegates)
Newt Gingrich - 6% (878 votes)

Pennsylvania - 100% precincts reporting.
Mitt Romney - 58% (463,865 votes, 72 delegates)
Ron Paul - 13% (105,331 votes)
Newt Gingrich - 10% (83,775 votes)

New York - 75% precincts reporting.
Mitt Romney - 62% (95,310 votes, 72 delegates)
Ron Paul - 16% (24,066 votes)
Newt Gingrich - 13% (19,747 votes)

Connecticut - 100% precincts reporting.
Mitt Romney - 67% (39,763 votes, 28 delegates)
Ron Paul - 13% (7,940 votes)
Newt Gingrich - 10% (6,054 votes)

Delaware - 100% precincts reporting.
Mitt Romney - 56% (16,143 votes, 17 delegates)
Newt Gingrich - 27% (7,741 votes)
Ron Paul - 11% (3,017 votes)

Delegate Totals to Date 1,144 required to win.
Mitt Romney: 824 delegates.
Rick Santorum: 260 delegates.
Newt Gingrich: 137 delegates.
Ron Paul: 79 delegates.

It should have become clear with this that the math is now in Romney's favor to have a lock on this even if Gingrich is stupid enough to stay in. Santorum's delegates are beginning to disperse and will only continue to do so between now and June. Now if we could just get Ron Paul to go away too.
"It is pointless to resist, my son." -- Darth Vader
"Resistance is futile." -- The Borg
"Mother's coming for me in the dragon ships. I don't like these itchy clothes, but I have to wear them or it frightens the fish." -- Thurindil

Well. I guess that's that then.

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Posted on Apr 25, 2012 12:00 am by Samson in: | 53 comment(s) [Closed]
Wow, I hadn't realized that Delaware was the only one Newt a hedged lead over Ron... definitely no contests at all in any of them between Newt/Ron and Mitt though. When is the party likely to announce Mitt's victory, do you think? (I suppose this really does eliminate the relevance of the issue of Santorum's delegates.)

If Mitt is the answer, how stupid is the question.

Called it.
I would say the party announces Romney's victory within minutes of Gingrich officially dropping out. Then we can get down to business on getting rid of Obama.

@Fury: If Obama is the answer, the entire test was stupid to begin with.

I spent an interesting 2 hours last night watching this: Can I Change Your Mind on Climate and the Q&A panel after it. If any of you have a couple of hours to waste and the bandwidth, i would be interested to hear your thoughts about what you got out of the first link.

My views have changed and developed over time, and while i am still firmly in the warming group, how we should go about transitioning to a low carbon economy has changed a lot, to the point where I even think that our Carbon Tax my not be a good thing at all.

Further more, I have always had a lot of respect for Nick Minchum, former conservative government member here in Australia, its just a pitty that there are not more like him currently in the Liberal ranks.

Oh and Samson, after watching the first show, you immediately came to mind, i thought it was funny how stereo typical we are at times in how we have debated this, the individualist and the egalitarian certainly shapes a lot of how we think on issues.

Edited by The_Fury on Apr 26, 2012 9:33 pm
Fury, not one to judge, but really. Nick Minchum? He's not just a climate skeptic but a tobacco skeptic too. What we need are more good liberals like Turnbull who are capable of pulling bastards like these into line and expelling any of this fringe lunacy from the party. I'm cool with the coalition's economic policies, but really, when they start hinging themselves on dangerous positions like that, I really feel uncomfortable considering myself a supporter. The fact that the guy feels the world is cooling rather than warming really undermines my confidence in him to make any rational decision backed by evidence.

Not that I've ever been a fan of the carbon tax, although, I think Abbot has been using the whole 'toxic tax' phrase slightly too frequently. Although, I will enjoy watching those programs later tonight. God bless Fridays.

Seeya Newt.

Given that there are no more viable candidates, that will be the end of election tracking here for now. Not a hell of a lot of point in reporting on Romney's unopposed victory now. You Ron Paul followers need to get over yourselves, he's got zero chance.

You Ron Paul followers need to get over yourselves, he's got zero chance.


Ok, i have a question, what happens to all the votes that were given to people who dropped out before the end?

Question; why did Newt first have to announce that he was going to drop out in the near future rather than just announcing he was dropping out when he dropped out?

Question: When did you change your avatar to Bobo.

Generally the delegates disperse to support whoever is left. In this case, pretty much all of them are just gong to go to Romney and the remaining primaries are of no further importance.

Politics being what they are, candidates announce their announcements in much the same way Bethesda likes to announce the announcement of DLC. It's all a game to these guys.

It would make for interesting news if the delegates were to all end up on Ron Paul, then you would have a race on your hands. :)

If I remember correctly, Ron Paul got the delegates from two of the states, including Iowa, but yeah, it doesn't really make any different. 2012 is Romney's year.

prettyfly said:

Question; why did Newt first have to announce that he was going to drop out in the near future rather than just announcing he was dropping out when he dropped out?

They don't always do that, but more often than not they do. Like Samson said, it's really all a game to most of these politicians, which is exactly what makes it so hard for me to "get behind" any of them most of the time. They really don't seem to care much about the issues or their constituents, just the job itself and the game of advancing their political careers. :(

Sad but true.

Maybe it is all a psychology ploy, if i announce that i will end my at such and such a date, it might encourage those who support me, but don not typically vote to come out of the woodwork and vote, thus keeping my campaign alive. and if no one votes for me, i have the confirmation that no one likes me.

I've always thought of it as a way for them to save face with themselves, personally. Little bit of salve to the prodigous ego without all of the crushing finality of calling the dramatic end.

Or maybe not.

Ahmadinejad lost his "reelection" bid. Could be good, could be bad, I suppose time will tell.

Things have been slipping away for him for quite a while now. To be honest, it looks bad to me; he's losing out to conservative groups and the supreme leader. And, y'know, unlike the supreme leader at least Ahmadinejad's democratically elected (sort of), and well, if he was anti-Israel/Semitic/Western/generally dangerous/whatever, well, I wouldn't like to see a conservative Iranian government in action.

You can democratically stuff ballot boxes and steal an election?

Yes, Democrats do it all the time here.

Oh Samson, do not get me started on the hanging chads that got your guy the presidency. :evil:

Edited by The_Fury on May 6, 2012 5:59 pm
Ok, and I won't start in on the warehouse with 8,000+ Gore ballots they found after the SCOTUS terminated Gore's childish tantrum :imp:

@The_Fury and Samson

Probably for the best :tongue:

But we are playing nice Prettyfly :)


Did you read the rumours that Costello might be making a comeback? Now there is a conservative who could pull off federally what Campbell Newman did here in QLD. So would you vote for him? I think i would, considering how pathetic labour are currently. Certainly has to be better than Abbot.

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