Missile Defense Logo

Apparently there's a buzz going around about the logo pictured here. It's the new logo for the front page at the Missile Defense Agency. All I'm going to ask is for your opinions on what it does or doesn't look like. I have my own interpretation obviously but I'm curious to know if anyone here comes up with the same.
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Well. I guess that's that then.

       
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Posted on Feb 24, 2010 3:08 pm by Samson in: | 30 comment(s) [Closed]
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Well, it looks very reminiscent to me of several other flags:

  • The Arab League of Nations

  • Algeria

  • Tunisia

  • or Mauritania


(I wonder what they all have in common...)
combined with the old NASA symbol:
Of course, using a component from the NASA symbol for the Missile Defense Agency doesn't seem at all inappropriate, however...

edited to try to fix bbcode tags, but still can't seem to make that first flag show up nor to get the post to look quite the way I had in mind. *shrug*

       
Edited by Conner on Feb 24, 2010 5:05 pm
I was going the same way as Conner, Pakistani flag for me.

       
When you're using list elements, it's not enough to just use the li and /li tags. You have to surround them with ul and /ul tags too, as I've now edited the comment. The images coming out botched up like that is weird though. Might be related to the way images inside the postbit styling works. CSS isn't always as cooperative as one might hope.

       
Ha! I won't be defeated by html (or bbcode) over a silly image! ;)
Hmm, I've never had to use the ul tags for lists before, but I do recall some sites where I had to use a 'list' tag to enclose the li tags, I just didn't think this was one of them. *shrug*
The staggering of the images is weird though, but you might be right that it's just an oddity to do with the CSS for images combining weirdly with the CSS for lists. I'd used the list to try to keep the text lined up with the respective images (and to indicate that those first four were a group.. as for the NASA symbol, I just couldn't find it on a quick web search the sizing to match the others and didn't feel like firing up gimp (and hosting it on my slow servers) just for a small comment like that one. Laziness. ;)

       
Hmm, Conner did his homework :P

I see a more simplistic approach of a missile stream hitting a direct target, from one side of the world to the other.
Isn't that the fear we've all lived with for the past 30 years?

       
That probably is what the folks at the Missle Defense Agency were thinking, but the resemblence is unfortunately much worse and, politically, a little too close for them to have not thought about it before going public with it.

       
Isn't that the fear we've all lived with for the past 30 years?


No, not at all, however i guess this may just be different for people living in different regions.

       
Edited by The_Fury on Feb 24, 2010 7:30 pm
I believe she's referring to what we ever so lovingly called 'The Cold War' from the 50's through recent times. I'm not sure what they're calling it now that the government has told us that we're supposed to believe it's over...

       
It's called "peace, hope, and change" according to Obama. :)

       
Well done, Samson. That was almost a perfect volley to my serve, the point is yours if only for excellant form. ;) *L*

       
The_Fury said:

No, not at all, however i guess this may just be different for people living in different regions.

I'm sure it is different for Aussies, they never had any threat (as far as I know). Plus, it's probably a generation thing too. I grew up with it, and even though I'm in Canada, if the U.S. went, we'd get it too. It was a fear to me.

Conner said:

I'm not sure what they're calling it now that the government has told us that we're supposed to believe it's over...

Mmmhmm...

So, was this some newfangled Rorschach test or is Samson gonna tell us his thoughts? :)

       
[quote=Hanaisse]I'm sure it is different for Aussies, they never had any threat (as far as I know). Plus, it's probably a generation thing too. I grew up with it, and even though I'm in Canada, if the U.S. went, we'd get it too. It was a fear to me.[/quote]
While I suspect that it is a generational thing, in this case I believe The_Fury to be of the same generation as the rest of us and thus I'm inclined to think it's far more a matter of Australia being on the other side of the world so their only potential threat in the cold war was if Russia and the US ever really launch a full scale toward "mutually assured destruction" since that would've taken out pretty much all life planet wide.

[quot=Hanaisse]So, was this some newfangled Rorschach test or is Samson gonna tell us his thoughts? :)[/quote]
While I'd really like to hear Samson's thoughts on the matter, I'm inclined to vote in favor of the former suggestion over the latter simply because I like the notion. :D

       
Yeah im close on 40, so i think we are all on the same page there. In Australia the only real concern would have been the US instillation's such as Pine Gap which is out in the middle of nowhere, our military is small and of little consequence. The whole cold war thing was not something that really concerned us, well me, all that much.

I think culturally i kind of follow the she'll be right Aussie attitude, and just never saw nukes as a big deal, sure they COULD kill everything other than cockroaches and a few other hardy critters, but those those that control such weapons know that the end result is sure death for them also. Mostly nukes to me are a joke, cause no one would ever have the balls to use them now, because it would bring about their own destruction as well.

I think the only real threat from nukes now would be from a small dirty bomb in the hands of a madman who for various reasons is pissed off at the USA primarily and possibly the UK because of their foreign policy agendas in regards to the Arab and Muslim worlds. But hey, i wont derail this thread any further by talking about the folly and mixed message of forcing nations into democracy. LOL.

       
Old one was better, to my mind:



I see we're going with the Islamic angle, this time around, as opposed to other places I frequent, who went with the Obama angle. I think it's a little Star Trekish, myself, and a whole lot of trying too hard.

But then, I also just don't care.

       
Edited by Dwip on Feb 24, 2010 10:48 pm
Yeah, ok. You may want to look into the ability to format posts such that you can have images above text, instead of text next to images, because ye gods this thread looks awful, especially my post.

As a side note, it's apparently possible to make your text disappear by way of the p tag, or at least my below the image text did when I used it. May have been behind the image. Dunno.

Do we have any sort of ability to specify image dimensions? Because that would also be nice.

       
Well since everyone has already answered more or less, my take on this was that it's a combination of the Obama campaign imagery and an Islamic crescent.

A quick bounce around out in the big bad net reveals a similar reaction, with more folks actually relating to the Islamic crescent from what I could tell. I figured the reaction would be about the same here, but Conner only picked up on the Islamic half.

CDR Salamander obviously thought more along the lines of the campaign logo angle, which is certainly valid and very apparent. I also agree with him that this isn't something our military should even remotely be engaging in.

For what it's worth, the old logo was fine but sort of blah. I can see why they wanted to update it.

As for the image+text thing, I would have to see what you did initially before you changed it. But do that in one of the test posts if you don't mind :P The paragraph tag should not be hiding anything behind the image, but given how the CSS likes to misbehave who knows.

       
Edited by Samson on Feb 24, 2010 11:22 pm
Nope, I didn't care enough to pay attention to the campaign logos, I was much too worried about what was being said by whom and how it was impacting the election outcome. ;)

Dragona tells me that it's all over facebook too, also with mixed reactions everywhere. In any event, it was not a good choice for them to go public with without having considered what public reaction might be to the new design.

       
Poking around some more out there today, I've found a few scattered commenters on other blogs who interpreted the new symbol as a missile strike on the Islamic crescent. I suppose you could see it that way and it's not entirely clear if folks saying it are being sarcastic or not.

       
Well, that would at least give it a semblence of a positive spin compared to everything else political lately. :D

       
Lol. Islamic Crescent. It's a fucking circle.

The symbol is supposed to represent:

Red lines - Incoming Missiles.
Blue Circle - Defense Shield.
Empty bit inside the blue circle - Earth/America Take your pick.

Missile. Defense. Agency.

Besides. It's a Logo for a website. What's the big fucking deal if it shares some similarity with the Obama campaign logo? It's not like this is going to be worn on the uniforms of personnel at the MDA. They'll actually still be wearing the patch that looks like the old site logo.

Never seen a bigger group of idiots seeing things that aren't there. And the fact that this is taking off all over the web further confirms my suspicions that people are stupid.

       
Wow, love you too, Kayle. Maybe you should go crawl back under the rock you'd been sleepng under until you're ready to face the world again.

What makes you so certain that the members of the agency in question won't be changing the logo on their uniforms to match the new logo for the agency they're working for?

       
It's called propaganda Kayle, and I'm sorry to say, you've taken the bait. It's time to wake up, this is the same kind of subtle shit the Nazis pulled in Germany before they took over.

       
Anonymous [Anon] said:
Comment #23 Mar 9, 2010 12:59 am

       
Anonymous [Anon] said:
Comment #24 Mar 10, 2010 3:31 am
this is damn cool! :O

       
Glad that you like it, Anonymous.. what exactly is it that you like so much?

       
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