Nerd Test

Yes, this one has two versions and I spent the time to take them both. Apparently I am in fact a Nerd God. You all probably knew that though considering what I've been up to for the last 2-3 weeks now :)

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"It is pointless to resist, my son." -- Darth Vader
"Resistance is futile." -- The Borg
"Mother's coming for me in the dragon ships. I don't like these itchy clothes, but I have to wear them or it frightens the fish." -- Thurindil

Well. I guess that's that then.

       
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Posted on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 am by Samson in: | 24 comment(s) [Closed]
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It would seem that Samson is the grand poobaa of nerds.

       
Edited by Samson on Mar 18, 2010 4:02 am
Erm. I see it allowed you to post that in HTML. That wasn't supposed to happen.

Yep, figures. Fixed now though. Just use the bbcode tags to embed the image source instead.

       
Edited by Samson on Mar 18, 2010 3:20 am




Woot! Uber Cool! :innocent:

       
Edited by Hanaisse on Mar 18, 2010 9:58 am

       
I know where Samson found out about these two... ;)











Alas, it seems that I'm slightly more nerdy while still being a little more cool than Samson, but only slightly. :lol:

       
Edited by Conner on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 pm
We always knew that you were Cool tho Conner :)

       
Cool Nerd? Seriously? :lol:

       


       
Why thank you, Fury! :grinning: :cool:

Um, Hanaisse (Miss Uber Cool Non-Nerd), are you trying to say something? :P

Btw, nice scores, Fury & Dwip, and interesting result Regina. :)

       
It's entirely appropriate, I think. I am more geeky than nerdy, if that makes sense. And I'm definitely a history/lit person. I know two dead languages, but not a single programming language.

       
Well, I think we're best to avoid the entire geek vs. nerd debate (various sites you can find with a simple Google search will give you opposite responses and some simply use the two words completely interchangeably), but I do understand what you're saying. As for the two dead languages, you know that Latin isn't really dead, and most of us were taught at least some of Egyptian hieroglyphics back in elementary school so I don't know if either of those should count, unless you took advanced studies in them, and even then, Latin is used so much today it probably still shouldn't count as a dead language. Now, if you'd meant that you know Old English beyond the ability to read Beowulf... ;)

       
Advanced studies in Latin? You're talking to a classics major. :) I've got Tacitus on my desk and Vergil, Lucan, and Suetonius within reaching distance - and that's just for a week at home.

And I'd always thought a language is dead when it isn't spoken any longer, which is certainly the case for Latin (about five guys in the Vatican excepted). It can still have some phrases survive and still be studied, but if it's not being used as a living tongue, it's dead.

And as it happens, one of my best friends knows Old English well enough to read Beowulf and then some. We are a terrifying pair. Never get us started on poetic meter.

       
I live in fear of this sort of thing constantly.

       
Doctors and scientists use Latin all the time though, so it's debatable that you could call it as dead as ancient Egyptian. You also pointed out some dudes at the Vatican, but a lot more Catholics besides just them still use it too. It might be little known, but it's still in use by enough people to qualify as still breathing.

Also seems highly appropriate for this to be the page's random quote right now: Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur. - Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.

       
Being a classics major does possibly count then, particularly if you're studying classics from BC. The fact that you've studied enough Latin to feel that reading ancient Latin manuscripts is leisurely does speak highly for you on this point... could you read the dead sea scrolls without translation? ;)

Seriously, Samson's caught my point exactly. English may not be one of the romance languages, but it's so heavily influenced by Latin as a root as to almost be one. Latin is still in quite regular use by doctors, scientists, lawyers, religious leaders, etc that, while I know most people think of it as a dead language because the Romans no longer rule the world, it's really quite alive and well. I even took two years of Latin in high school and then proceeded to spend the next year alternatively speaking in Latin and English conversationally with my friends who also took a year or two of it, so it's not like know one still knows how to speak it with enough certainty to know if we've got pronunciations correct anymore.. In fact, there are free online translators from Latin to most other languages... obviously it's pretty commonly used still. ;)

While I have no doubt about the veracity of your claim of the two of you being a terrifying pair when together (ok, maybe a few doubts ;)), we were talking about the two dead languages you said you knew, not what languages your friends know. ;)

Anyway, in case you hadn't figured it out yet, the fact that so many people think of Latin as being a dead language happens to be one of my pet peeves. I don't claim to really know it conversationally anymore, but I certainly encounter it quite regularly in my daily life. As my former Latin Magistar would have pointed out to you, even modern farmers routinely speak Latin (though they may not know they're doing so) each time they call their pigs "suis". ;)

       
Well, first off, I suppose I was disingenuous when I listed all those authors I brought home - they were to study for a Latin literature exam, not to read for pleasure. So I've been flipping back and forth between the Latin, the English translation, and the commentary and notes. My difficulty with reading Latin at this point is not lack of grammar, it's lack of vocabulary. I know all the grammar cold but I do not have the vocabulary on the tip of my tongue that I could read Latin without pausing constantly to use a dictionary. It's the same for the other students in my department.

And I suppose that gets at why I consider Latin a dead language. Why don't I know the vocabulary? Because it was not made a priority when I learned it the same way it was when I learned French, which is beyond a doubt a living language. Yes, I learned a fair bit of vocabulary, but I never had to internalize it the way I had to internalize French vocabulary. French was presented to me from day one as something I had to learn to hear and speak. You can't just go slowly and look at a dictionary when you speak French - you have to get your brain to absorb the grammar and vocabulary and sounds all together. Latin was something to be decoded, a series of puzzles - I always compare it to learning to do a crossword when people ask. I'm not saying that you can't speak or think in Latin - your experience proves that's not the case - but that speaking is no longer how the language is preserved, transmitted, and innovated with. I've studied French sporadically throughout my life - I've devoted to it perhaps a third of the energy that I've devoted to Latin or ancient Greek - but I can easily think in French because my brain has had to pick up its structure as a spoken language. I can't think in Latin. If I try to work out a sentence in my head, it's like doing math or, well, figuring out a crossword.

So yes, Latin words and phrases are preserved in all sorts of places in English and other languages - medicine, law, religion, etc. But I don't equate that to the language as a whole living.

Anyway, now I must return to ancient Greek poetry. G'night all.

       
I suspect that's a matter of a difference in teaching styles more than anything else. In high school,my Latin teacher was a former monk and he taught us Latin the same way that my Spanish teacher taught us Spanish; we could only speak in Latin while in his classroom and we were given a new vocabulary list along with grammar exercises to learn for homework each night.. of course, he was a fun teacher too which helped make us want to learn it. While my Spanish teacher's favorite in class phrase for the two years I took Spanish was "la chicle en basura" (gum in the trash), his choices were less predictable, for example, the first week of class we learned all the curse words (and curse phrases) that we could think of in English translated into Latin, and each day instead of collecting our homework outright, he'd play a form of bingo he'd invented that he called "subito mortum" (sudden death) in which we were each assigned a number at the start of the year and he'd spin a little bingo wheel, for each of the first three numbers that came out of it, those three people had to demonstrate orally that they'd done the night's homework.. on Fridays we'd play games in class based on the ancient Roman mythos.. over the doorway to his classroom he had a sign mounted that read "Caveo ingressus ianua infernos" (assuming my memory is still clear enough, but I know that it translated to essentially "beware as you enter the gates of hell";) ...that sort of thing. The result is that we enjoyed learning the language from him and learned it at the conversational level almost easily even when we were struggling with learning the "living" languages.

Now ancient Greek, I would have to classify as a dead language no matter how you slice it. ;)
Good luck with all that studying! :)

       
Ha, that sounds awesome. We never used Latin conversationally like that, and I had to pick up all my Latin curse words on my own. Although a lot of my teachers did use something pretty similar to your "subito mortum."

       
I think the fact that both of you were/are able to take a class in Latin at all and learn to speak it on any level is more or less proof it isn't dead. On life support perhaps, but not dead.

       
@Regina: Yeah, he was an awesome teacher and over the years has remained a family friend. I always assumed he'd invented his sudden death game but if others use the same concept then maybe it's just something most pre-college levels teachers avoid, but it was really nice for the students. If you had a basic grasp of the material you didn't have to do your homework, and sometimes, if luck was with you, you could skate by regardless, but if you didn't feel lucky you knew you needed to do it just in case. But also by spending most of our class time playing games, few of us felt like we were learning through drudgery like most of our other classes. I absolutely hated my high school English classes because of all the essays and reports but loved going to my Latin class each day.

@Samson: That's my position. If it were truly a dead language, the best one could do would be to learn enough of it to translate written material, like with Sanskrit or Hieroglyphics, you wouldn't be able to learn to speak it because no one would still be around to teach you whether you're saying it correctly or not. Maybe I'm working off the distinction that they like to reserve for dead vs. extinct languages, but to me "dead" implies that no one still speaks it at all and extinct implies that no one even knows for sure how to translate it.

       


       
Edited by Dragona on Mar 21, 2010 5:40 pm
*sigh* Samson it ate my post :cry::shrug:

       
Nope, didn't eat it, just filed it as spam. Had to fix the spam release code because it was generating errors.

       
Hehe.. guess it means I choose my wife well when her nerd score is just barely behind my own, eh? :lol:

Btw, Samson, when you found the tests at my blog and posted your scores here, how come you didn't post them there too? :(

       
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